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Interviewed mid last year with the
plan of going into issue 6 of the print zine, here's what Ian and Pete
had to say on a few things.
New album is due for release soon, what's it called,
who's releasing it etc...?
Pete: It's called ‘When Duty Calls' and will
be released by Pure Impact around Christmas time.
Ian: It's called ‘Pure Impact' and will be
released by When Duty Calls probably around Easter 2008.
Pete: Although we were gonna call it ‘Saxons on a
bad day!' for reasons we could never divulge!
Can we expect a similar sound or will it more metal,
less metal, more something else?
Pete: The sound pretty much follows on from our
latest offerings such as ‘The Sweeney', there's probably a little too much
metal influence for the Oi! purists, but there ya go, ya can't please
everybody! There's a few things on the
new album that we'd never have dared try a few years back, like the cover we
did of the Madness song ‘Bed & Breakfast Man' and the two or three hundred
year old folk song we've done, but we've got to the stage after eight years
where we like to try shit, push the bounds if you like.
Ian: There's a mixture of stuff on the album,
opens with a good ole Oi! Song though!
Pete: I'd be more inclined to call it Skinhead
Rock! Bloik!
Whizzer & Chips or Beano?
Ian: I used to get both of them. The Beano is in a
league of it's own though - or at least it used to be until I discovered
2000AD.
Pete: Ah, now it's all starting to make sense!
You guys have a fair following about the place,
including here. Any plans to tour with the
new album?
Pete: Yeah, if we can be arsed to get it
together. We're a useless bunch of lazy
bastards where the band is concerned, we're all far happier getting pissed in
the crowd, watching some other band doing all the hard work, but there're a lot
of promoters waiting for us to get knocked back into some kind of gigging shape,
so I spose we ought to at least go and have a few beers and talk about it! I mean it wouldn't hurt would it!
Ian: A tour?? Have you lost your marbles?? It
would kill me! The odd gig here and there is ok, maybe a couple over a weekend
but then I'd need a month off to recover.
Pete: Yeah Ian's Mic case is pretty damned heavy ya
know!
Do you prefer playing bigger gigs with millions of
screaming girls, or just small intimate gigs?
Pete: We prefer playing NO gigs! We're lazy bastards!
Ian: I prefer small gigs, the atmosphere is
better. Oi! Just don't seem real on a big stage. I would prefer to play to 50
like minded skins than 350 anarchists and junkies anyhow.
Pete: Yeah any day of the week, although having
said that, playing to two-thousand like-minded screaming girls might be alright
I spose!
Flat caps and tank-tops? What's that all about?
Ian: Dunno! Ask the people than iron creases in
their Levis. Now where's me Fred Perry cardigan...
Pete, your a bit of a 'Master and Commander' fan, is
it the boats and blood and guts or just
Russell Crowe?
Pete: Ah Fiona me ole muckerette, you just can't
stop talking about this film can ya, I told ya you'd love it! For me it's a history thing! I love all things historical.
Ian:
It was an average flick, hugely over rated like most other films today. It was
no Star Wars that's for sure!
Pete: Oh God here we go! Zzzzzzzzzzz!
Ian: Sith or Jedi?
Pete: ????
Ian: Sith. It goes without saying.
Pete: ok then!
What got you into the skinhead/punk/oi! scene?
Anything in particular?
Pete: Nothing, I'm not into it at all!
Ian: I don't remember.
Pete: Seeing the original skins knocking around my
housing estate in London when I was a nipper was the start of it for me.
Ian: Well I was into 77 Punk stuff to be honest,
then one day my brother bought home Bltiz' ‘All Out Attack' EP and that was
that.
What's the one big gripe you have with life at the
moment?
Pete: Ian, Mark & John!
Pete: And Swiss refs!
Pete: And English footballers!
Ian: Waiting for our new stuff to be released
always pisses me off. 7 or 8 months after we record it!
Do the hills really have eyes?
Ian: Yes.
Pete: Yes.
You are an internet savvy band. Do you reckon the
internet has been good or bad for the 'scene'
Pete: Good and bad!
Ian: Well it's gotten us 90% of our gigs and
record deals. Made us plenty of enemies too!
If you could pretend you were someone else for the
day, who would you be?
Pete: Tony Blair!
I'd have the Tower of London bursting at the fucking seems! The old chopping block on Tower Hill would
have a queue as long as a Russian bread-queue!
Ian: Monkey Gibbon.
Pete:
Or Michael Douglas for obvious reasons, although I'd soon put the Welsh slapper
in her place! SERVANTS? WHAAAAT?
Get aaht into that kitchen ya Welsh bint and wash up like a real woman
ya lazy Welsh dog... Iznit look yew and all that lark!
When is Mark gonna stop wasting his time with that
‘Combat 84' tribute band he's in?
Pete: You tell us!
We keep telling him he's flogging a dead horse but he won't listen!
Ian: And when's he gonna stop buying pervy stuff
on eBay?
Warwick Castle or Stonehenge?
Pete: Hmm, it's a toughie! Warwick Castle for sheer awesome beauty, but
the tour needs working on, those headphone things are crap!
Ian: The Henge - before they put a fence around
it.
Pete: Mind you, me and her-indoors have just done
Dover Castle and that was the bollocks!
Ian: Well best you get down to Winchester too
then.
Pete: We'll maybe I will!
Proudest moment with Retaliator
Pete: Backing singing on Haggis's Johnny Cash cover
‘Long Black Veil'. The tears are welling
just thinking about it! "She Wizzits
my grave in a long black weil!"
Class! So very very proud!
Ian: Yeah, the whole Norway thing was great.
Pete: Seriously, there's been loads for me, we've
shared a bill with so many great bands, but the first time I heard the crowd
chanting our name as we left the stage at a gig in Belgium was certainly a good
moment.
Ian: And we got an encore at ‘Holidays in the
Sun' fucking hell! That's kind of sad really!
Best book ever written
Pete: The Warlord Chronicles by Bernard Cornwell
Ian: The Monkey Gibbon Chronicles by Bob Gruff.
Pete: Yeah that was pretty fucking good!
Ian: It's the bollocks. I have the hardback
version, golden chimp leather.
Worst book ever written
Pete: Skinhead by Richard Allen! No Suedehead by Richard Allen!
Ian: That "Spirit of ‘69" thing by that Scottish
bloke. Probably would've been ok if he didn't call it ‘A Skinhead Bible'. Too
many people take it seriously - especially Yanks and Spaniards.
Pete: And anything by Shaun Hutson!
Ian: Who's Shaun Hutson?
Pete: You don't wanna know!
What made you decide to record a Madness cover on the
new album?
Pete: Well who don't like Madness? Personally I've always been a bit of a
Madness fan and ‘Bed & Breakfast Man' has always been one of my favourite
Madness songs so I suppose it's a bit of self-indulgence really, but what the
fuck, we've earned it!
Ian: It was either gonna be a Madness song or one
by the Jam. We didn't know if it was gonna work or not really, but thought we'd
give it a go anyway. When we first heard John pulled off the piano solo on his
guitar we laughed like fuck, it sounded mad.
Are you into any punk bands at all? What punk band do you most respect if any?
Pete: Yeah there's been some fucking good punk
bands over the years, my favourite all time favourite band is probably The Sex
Pistols but the punk band I most respect is The Exploited, they do what the
fuck they want, have done for years and don't give a flying fuck, their
attitude to all this bollocks is spot on!
You hear a lot of shit about Wattie on the grapevine but I think he's a
top geezer, we've played with them a couple of times and it's been a pleasure,
I hope they continue to make fucking awesome music for many years to come!
Ian: Yep. I love it, Pistols, One Way System, Anti
nowhere League, Partisans, Exploited.... The list is endless. I ‘aint got no time
for the unwashed Conflict types though.
Pete: Aint ya?
I thought you liked those chaps!
Enjoy HITS then wont ya matey!
Do you believe the film Romper Stomper is a true
representation of Aussie Skins?
Ian: Well of course! I'm sure you all sew army
patches on your jackets, read Mein Kampf and stab each other. Don't you?
Pete: Yeah, everyone knows that Aussie skins base
their whole life on Romper Stomper, it's common knowledge!
Time Team or Extreme
Archaeology?
Ian: They should combine the two. Seeing that West
Country twat in the floppy hat hanging over a river by his feet might be fun.
Pete: Ian, you know you love old Phil really, he's
your hero, you love him, he's your dad he is, he's your dad and you love
him! See that bloke on Time Team, the
one with the floppy hat going ‘ooh argh!' all the time ...he's your dad he
is!
What songs or albums are bugging the shit out of you
at the moment that you can't stop playing in yer car?
Ian: Jimmy Jimmy by the Undertones. I saw them
a couple of weeks ago, the new singer pisses over Fergal. The new Argy
Bargy/Discipline split album is good, that's been getting a few plays, and also
the TMF (Tattooed Mother Fuckers) promo. Have you heard the demo by Steve Lee
& the OiSharks?
Pete: The Gauntlet by the Dropkicks, Hooligans
Heaven by Discipline, The Ultimate High by Major Accident, the
wife's Velvet Revolver album aint bad either, and good old Never Mind
the Bollocks is never too far from my reach.
Little Fern Cotton!
... Would ya? Hmm? Would ya?
Ian: In the birthday card I received she signed it
Fearn. Actually.
Pete: Yeah yeah that's all well and good, but you
aint answered Fiona's rather saucy question have ya! birithday card, my arse!
Ian: Fern Cotton? Fiona Cotton? Dot Cotton? Needle
& Cotton?
Why the name ‘When Duty Calls' for the third
album?
Ian: I don't know.
Pete: There's a song on the album called Chosen
Men and in it is the line ‘When duty calls me I must go to stand and face
another foe', it came from that line.
Ian: Is it?? I sang ‘When fruity calls....' on the
album. Shit!
Any other recording projects lined up for Retaliator
in the near future?
Ian: Yeah. We were never happy with some of the
recordings on ‘Order of Chaos', so we're gonna re-record a few of the tracks in
session sometime this year. Probably stick them out on an EP.
Any final comments?
Pete:
Nope!
Ian: Pah!
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